Networking Unleashed: Building Profitable Connections. An Interview with Anca Platon Trifan and Michael A Forman
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Welcome to Networking Unleashed, building Profitable Connections, where real conversations create real opportunities. I'm your host, Michael Foreman, and this show is about more than meeting people. It's about rebuilding, strengthening, and protecting the relationships that actually support your success.
Today's conversation hits a reality. Many professionals face. Your world changes. Your circle shifts. The old way of networking no longer works. My guest is a disciplined international. I'm sorry, my guest is a disciplined, intentional approach to rebuilding a network from the ground up with structure follow up and self-leadership at the center leadership center of it all.
I'm just confusing my all my words. Together we're talking about how to choose the right connections, how to lead yourself before you're reaching out to others, and how to turn follow up into repeatable habits instead of forgotten tasks. If you're ready to stop leaving relationships to chance and start building connections that last, you're exactly where you need to be.
Buckle up, buttercup. Get ready 'cause we're going to begin this podcast. Anka, I just want to welcome you to the podcast. I'm so glad that you're here. And why don't you give us a little backstory of how you got here today. Michael, thank you so much for having me. Super excited to be part of this conversation and in in a short synopsis.
I would say that I first started my professional career in radio. This was back in Romania while I was still high school and college. I graduated in computer science. Didn't wanna do much in it. Funny how life. Place you when you know, many years later, all you do is coding and computer and ai. So that's just the, it's like the irony of things, but really what I wanted to do with my life was invest myself in AV production, which is like unheard of if you are a young girl in Romania, in a country that's traditionally and culturally quite traditional in that sense. Like the expectation was that I was gonna finish college, get married, have kids, and forget about my professional career.
That did not work out for me too well. That was not the dreams that I had for myself. So because I. It didn't pan out to be the direction that I wanted. I decided to work just enough to get myself a one-way ticket to us the land of all opportunities. That's what I had in my mind, that this would be, and I started my career in, aV production actually in LA from the ground up. Actually, my card to get in that field was knocking at doors and telling people, Hey, I can fix your computers if you teach me how to do production, and that worked once and that's all I needed. And I started working for this production company down in LA and we did a lot of amazing shows, a lot of a least celebrities, runaway shows, and a lot of good stuff that really got me.
To be hands on and learn everything that there was to learn about audio production, video production, lighting, everything and anything under the sun in that space. And after doing that for a while I burned out 'cause I happened to be someone that. Truly invest themselves in all the way. And and then I moved to Portland, Oregon to start working in corporate events because I figured that's an easier lifestyle than life events, than setting up stages in the middle of nowhere or putting on, those.
Concerts, which is a lot of hard manual physical work. So that's when I started my family as well. Eventually, that led to starting my own production agency and, and a lot of the clients that I have made relationship with and network with carried over to to my agency. And then, we we moved to Boise where I now live.
Boise was an opportunity for my husband. It didn't really quite matter for me where I was, 'cause I was doing a lot of remote work anyway. And one thing led to another. I got into other things started my own podcast because at one point I was, had those thoughts about, hey, I, I used to love doing radio.
Like I used to really enjoy that. How come I don't have a podcast? And so I did which now is one of the top podcast, event podcast in event technology and ai. And it's in it's 11 season. So it's been a minute. Also I started doing a lot of speaking on stages about AV production at first. Advocating for more women behind the scenes. That's been something that I pioneered over the years because for many years I happened to be the only woman behind the scene. I was running a team. I was either hands-on mixing or doing something of a technical capacity, and I was always surrounded by guys.
Always. So it was like you look around and you're like, how come I'm the only one? Where are the other women? So you realize that there's a lot of things that come in the way of that, and a lot of that has to do Yes. With the physical aspect of hard work. Even now, if you go to an event and you look behind the scenes for the most.
Part, you are gonna see the tech team being predominantly male, right? Because not only do you set get there to be looking pretty and mixing and pretending like you know what all these buttons do, but you have to be there at 4:00 AM when you load in and you have to be there 3:00 AM when you load out. So it's a very long span day.
That is very physical, so a lot of women tend to shy away from that. Now, as far as I'm concerned, I never shied away from hard work, physical or not. I grew up, hard work environment, like working the fields when I was a child, my, my parents had a farm. And you did what you had to do, which also, later in life pushed me into bodybuilding.
I realized my body's really strong. I can carry, not just, I can carry a lot of weight, I can lift a lot of weight, but I'm really built this way. So that's pushed me into bodybuilding, into competing, into doing really well. And all of that coming, around the circle of life is that. Now I embed a lot of those lessons learned under the barbell into the Fit for Events framework, which is leading the conversations in the event space about burnout, about performance, about capacity mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual health is under the pillars that I really care about.
Under that framework AI is a big part of the conversation, right? It has really changed how we do things, how we how we. Automate a lot of the manual tasks that we used to spend quite a bit of time on just in the last few years alone. And as someone that I really stayed on top of the latest and the greatest, not just in Navy production, but also in technology, invent technology and anything and everything.
I think I just had a bit of a a skillset to really learn things easily and apply them practically. Then be able to tell others how things work. I took it upon myself right when Chad g PT came out in 20 20, 20, 20 22, something like that. It was like around the right after COVID to learn what this thing is.
What does it do? How does it work? How can I make my life easier? Basically, that was like the whole point of it. So that's my trajectory through life. And, but coming back to our conversation, to the topic that I know you're so fond of, all of that would not be possible without relationships, without connections, without people, right?
Like you can look at your life and say, I have accomplished so many things, but that would be such vanity. And so much ego embedded into that. Whereas everything that I have accomplished is because there's someone along the way that supported my growth trajectory. Like when I got to LA and I met, and I ended up working in this production house. The I met this gentleman that was the CEO of the company in and to this day, he's one of my best friends. We're talking about 20 something years of a friendship that a very professional friendship, but it's those people that you meet along the way they mentor you, and then in return, I hope that.
You give back, right? So for me, the way I give back is to the community of women in events. I started an entire community of women in the events. Behind the scenes. The girls that want to get in lead tech positions, but they don't always know where to start, or they don't know what to do, or they don't know what they need to know or who they need to talk to.
Get the opportunities that a lot of guys get automatically just because of the bias that still exists. If you're a guy, you must know how to do this. Whereas someone that comes in as a young girl, she's gonna be questioned, she's gonna be tested, and then she's gonna have to prove herself again and again.
That's quite extensive. I want to tell you. I have a series of questions for you. You've answered the majority of them just by speaking first, but I'm gonna go through the numbers. When someone's, Hey, I love conversations, Michael. I don't love q and a. Yeah, no, it's like this is pick can choose.
What makes more sense for us to dwell more into this is more conversational. When someone's professional world shifts overnight, what's the first mindset change they must make before rebuilding their network? I. So I think we all went through this, right in 2020 when what happened, at least to my side of the industry.
A lot of us, we have put our identity in what we do, right? And when events went away and we were faced with a question. Who am I if I am not able to do the things that I used to do this entire time? That kind of shakes your worldview, that kind of shakes you internally, right? 'Cause you have to now face the demons to face the insecurities to face yourself in a way that.
You are not willing to or able to because you are constantly busy. You are constantly running from one thing to the next. So I think what has helped me the most in that aspect is to be able to have a close, network of people that could answer that for me. When I couldn't, when I couldn't see, I couldn't see the trees because of the forest. I couldn't see beyond my reality, which was my whole professional. Foundation is gone. Now what do I do? For me personally, that just meant reinventing. Reinventing what I have done in one space, which was the live events and in person event.
Transitioning that automatically. And automatically, in three days I had one event that I had to take was 615%. We had to transition it to a virtual format and we had to figure it out. And that's been my, my way of reinventing. Okay, I have the skills. I know how that applies in this area.
I'm gonna make it happen. In a completely different space. We just need to figure out the framework, the model that would work, right? But that wasn't just me alone, it was a group of us putting our heads together. So that's what I think networking and relationship really mattered. Because even though on the outside you could look at it and be like we were competitive.
Competitive. We were all like trying to get those contracts, those events. That would help us survive during a hard time. But what came out of that instead was a lot of collaboration. And there's this one term that I really liked during that time was called competition. Basically, yes, there's still competition happening, but there's also a lot of collaboration that is happening at the same time, right?
At the same time how I know that you can do, say, virtual events really good. I really, I know I can also do virtual events really good because we are two different people. We have a two different set of skills, but also we have a different take on how that works, right? So I. That's kinda what came out of that hardship of figuring out how to turn this one lemon into lemonade, but not alone, but with others.
Does that answer your question, Michael? Yeah. Yeah. I put a line in the sand when it comes to the pandemic. Right before the pandemic networking, as you say was all transactional. Everybody was super busy and networking and everything else. Yeah. Once the pandemic happened, people had to stay inside.
They had to do everything virtually, like you said, in three days, that you had to transform from this outspoken person to some sort of a person behind the camera. But one thing that we had to learn or relearn was as we started to come out of the pandemic, we, people weren't following it. They weren't getting back into the relationship side of the transaction.
Things were all transactional beforehand. It's relationship oriented afterwards, and people forgot how to network. They forgot how to communicate my goal after I'm doing all the workshops and keynotes and everything else, is just telling people that, telling people, look, I always say 20 somethings in the audience.
30 somethings. They always raised their hand. Oh yeah. I'm like, what I'm telling you is gonna be completely Greek. Yeah. Because nobody showed you. If I think about just the, the function of networking, if I were to dissect what is networking, I think for a lot of people, networking means collecting a bunch of contacts, but to me is building alignment because people do not stay connected to you just because you have this job title.
Just because you are impressive in one way or another. I think they stay because they feel part of what you're building, if you're able to draw them in. And the fastest way to lose someone is to just walking and trying to impress. At least for me, that does not work. That's actually such a turnoff. But then the fastest way on the flip side.
To build a network is to invite people into a shared direction. So I think what you're saying is that what the pandemic did, it brought us into this one shared direction for all of us to get out of it and that was our shared vision. Eventually we did. And then the question that I have to you is, do you feel like.
Our networking has gone back to our old habits, or do you feel like we're doing better because we have to go through it? Because sometimes I feel like we've forgotten a lot of the lessons we have learned during the pandemic. It's changed. It's changed. When I said it's more relational, it's, I used to be in the mortgage industry and when I went to a networking event, I came home with a shoebox filled with business cards and I'd say, look how good I did when I did.
Horribly. Now, the way I teach people is that if you go to a three or four hour networking event, you come back with 15, maybe 20 business cards because those are the people that you spoke with, you had a relationship with. That you talked about something that you were familiar with. So if you spent 15, 20, 25 minutes with this person you created.
That, that whole feeling. And I tell everybody on the back of the person's business card, there's a whole series of events that has to go in before you get there. But once you get that card, you write down the date, the name of the event, and something you spoke about. So when you follow up with them, you can remember what you spoke about.
But that's where it is. It's 15 or 20 business cards instead of 200. Absolutely. And then maybe, out of those, 15 business cards, you actually know something about those people. So when you follow up, you make it personal. I think that's the biggest thing that people forget that for it to really grow beyond, Hey, here's my business cards and thanks for your business card, which now it goes into shoebox that I'm not sure if I'm gonna ever get back to ever again, is being able to come back to it and say, Hey, Michael.
I really liked when you told me x, Y, Z about Georgia and how you used to live in New York and how winter was back then and now. Why is everybody talking about a snow mega dawn when we've done, survive war times. Exactly. Exactly. And that's half the. The value of putting the information on the back of the business card for when you follow up, you start your follow up.
'cause it, remember now it takes between eight and 15 touches, touch points before they even respond to you. Yeah. So it's all in the follow up. So let me go on. How do you decide who belongs in your next chapter when your old circle no longer fits, where you're going? That's that's a hard one.
So I have a story to tell when I embraced this bodybuilding journey. Because I really needed to personally, when you come to hit the wall really hard and realize if I don't make some changes right now, something will break. So for me, that was going through another burnout cycle. And then, 'cause again, I'm a workaholic.
I sometimes try to say that I'm recovering, but I'm not because there's not much recovery from there. So I would work myself through this burnout cycles. Pandemic was one of those, like after the pandemic, as we were like, building this plane with virtual events, I got really busy and I was doing like three virtual events a day after day, it was like nonstop.
So the work was great 'cause we are making money, we're surviving, but. It was taxing, like when your office becomes your workplace and there you have no boundaries between, going to work and coming from work that can be very dangerous. So bodybuilding came out of that. Needing to remove myself from a space that now was like all involving in all areas of my life, personal and professional, and needing a space where I can go and not only work on my physical conditioning.
But also on my mental capacity, I needed a place to break away from family, from work, from kids, so I can be by myself while also getting, my system moving and working. 'cause you're sitting on a chair for hours in no end. And. When I did that and I started becoming successful at it in the sense that I started changing my body composition, I started looking completely different.
I'm putting on muscle. I'm looking like pretty feet and shredded my circle of friends. Started teaming out, they started becoming insecure in themselves because I no longer looked like them. And I had to, and also our priorities were no longer the same. And this happened even like with my own husband, like for a little bit we were going through this hard patch because he was still overweight and he was still, struggling to, figure out how he was.
How, what health looked like. And he started becoming jealous. 'cause I look so much better and like now I have the hot wife, but the hot wife is really hot and I don't know what to do with it. And then eventually he had his own moment or revelation like, oh, but if I actually spent some time on my health, I could actually, catch up with her.
And thank God that he did that. He actually. Did not start bodybuilding with me. He's not the person to come into a gym and be indoors. He loves biking. He loves running. He's a marathon runner, and he started doing the things that he was passionate about, which completely changed then our dynamic and our priorities.
So going back to his friends and priorities, that's when I had to make a choice. There's people that I can no longer take with me in this future. And this future for me is health span, lifespan, feed span. The things that I care about now are no longer the same things that I used to care in the past.
I no longer care to go to a party. I no longer care to have a wine. At the end of the day. I no longer care to do all these happy hours, things that they don't serve me anymore. So that was a hard call because now I had to look at this group of friends that were dear to me and say, not necessarily say to their face, but create the distance to choose only the ones that were just as mindful about their health as I was.
So we can move together in, in step. Versus these other people, they're like. Almost shaming me into why do you spend so many time, so many hours at the gym? Like, why do you have to look, look any better than what you already look, like all those things that they're toxic and they just don't serve you.
So that's that's where the, that's that needed a decision and I needed to make that. And even though, I still see those friends from time to time. I no longer spend my time like I used to in death cycle. Because what do they say about friendships? Don't they say that whom you surround yourself with, that's who you become.
I already had a different vision of who I wanted to become, and the people around me did not serve that anymore. Absolutely a, absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. And when you changed your mindset, it's not that they had to change theirs completely, but if they didn't accept the way you changed, then really you're gonna leave them behind because there's no place for them.
And yeah. How good of a friend were they really? If they wouldn't adapt? So you weigh all that together. That's very good. And sometimes, it's funny now, 'cause years later as they kept seeing me improving and keeping at it, 'cause it wasn't just, it wasn't gonna be just a season for me.
They're snapping now into it themselves. In this cycle of life I can see reconnecting. Eventually at the same level that we used to be. If they're just as focused as me on the things that matter, on health spend, like I said, and longevity and putting in the time. So there is redemption.
It's just sometimes the timing can be off. And for me that was true. The, I, their mindset, where they would go to a bar they'd go to after after hours and they go to whatever, their mind will shift and say you know what, maybe I'll spend that extra time in the gym and we'll spend time together during that.
You could, they'll still have a great time. Yeah. But your mind shifted and if they will shift even. Half the way with yours, then you can be friends again. But if they're going to hold you back, then you're a, they really weren't friends to begin with and B you don't want them anymore. Yeah. In your experience, how does personal discipline show up in the quality of relationships people attract?
Yeah, I had to learn this the hard way again. Yeah, it's always the best point. I gotta learn less the hard way. This for me took the form of emotional. Relationships. I had this one emotional relationship that I struggled with the most because I really attach as a friend to someone that was not ready to have the same level of attachment, and I did not have the discipline to remove myself and let go.
And I think that was actually the start of me meeting. To work on something else that I felt like I had control over if my emotional life was like, just out of control. 'cause I couldn't figure out how to get a hold of it and make it work for me instead of against me. I figure, okay, I'm gonna work on my physical health because then I, at least I have control over that, like what I can do with my body and what my body can do.
So to build the discipline for that to be true. It can take different forms and it can take a journey and a longer, or a shorter journey depending of where you are, like depending where you are in your life. For the longest step, I've always for me, the emotional aspect of myself was something that.
I didn't wanna deal with I'm someone that's very hardheaded. When I put something in my mind, I go and get it done and it's, there's very little, outside influences. To stop me from accomplishing what I put my mind to do, which was like I have this very strong will to do to get things done, and emotionally, if something didn't align with my drive, I would just throw it under the rug.
It is not important. I'm not gonna deal with it. It's not necessarily for me to deal with it, which kind of like builds, right? It builds and it builds until at one point you're like. This can't build anymore. There's no more room in this, tank to build, and it's gonna, come out. So I needed to figure out how to take control over the, how to be more disciplined with my emotions, the same way how I'm disciplined with my body, how I'm disciplined with my routine, with my calendar, with my relationships.
So it was a hard lesson. And it took a few years for me to go through that whole process. Obviously took some help with, with the therapist going back into your whole history I didn't realize I had all this, childhood drama that I needed to deal with. But I think at the end of the day, it comes down to.
Needing to work on the things that you keep avoiding to work on, thinking that they don't matter until they really do. Because at the end of the day, discipline is just promising, is just keeping the promises you made to yourself, whatever that looks like in which area of your life. And it was important to me to be discipline in all aspects of my life, but I couldn't.
Handle it in some areas because there's too much work that needed to be done in the first place before I got to the level where I was ready for discipline to apply on top. It's like raising a kid that you're trying to, discipline, but there's so much other things that get in the way of that because they're grown, because they're emotional, because they have resentment, because, they think it's unfair because all of those things that are.
Package and then when you're trying to discipline, it's just one thing that you are barely touching the surface, but you're not even getting to the root of the problem. Yes. Very good. Very good. Your fit for events framework? Yes. It's structure and consistency to relationships.
What shifts when networking stops being casual and starts being intentional?
I think the biggest for me has been presence, spending intentional time with. The people that I want to be closer with and the people that I wanted to grow with versus just spreading myself in small pieces here and there everywhere. And presence means putting aside sometimes your own schedule, your own priorities, just to have a conversation with someone just to learn more about them, just to.
Just to see where they're coming from so you understand what their challenges are, how you could help them in return. And then on still on the same token, I feel like. Okay. None of this really works. If if there's so much like conferences are so prevalent where there's so much cognitive load and so much context switching that happens all the time.
So your nervous system is constantly attacked. It's just basically wrecked. You go to an event and you come back and you feel like you need rest. You need to rest from the event. Even though that was supposed to be something that was a recreational, not just something that you worked.
So one of the realization that I had was that one, there's those challenges that we all have that we need to be aware of. Two, you can communicate well and clearly when you are already tired, exhausted, and fried. And you can be present if all of those things are true. So the fit for events framework is more about how do we look at our mental, our emotional, our physical.
And our spiritual capacity in a way that supports our leadership functions in a way that supports our presence with other people. Not just self-care for myself, but capacity for others too. So in, in so many way is high performance with regulation that can help you achieve your goals in whatever area or space that you are in.
And the way we do that is by turning wellbeing into a system instead of just a face. Oh, I'm just gonna lose 20 pounds. No, that's not I, that's not what we do. That's not what we wanna do, right? Because. It's not just something that you do now. It's something that you maintain and it's like this lifestyle that you sign up for because you know it's good for you.
One of the ways in which it's important for me to look at is, especially when I have those conversations, is let's look at what is your minimum standard on a very busy day, not your best day standard, right? Your worst day standard. The day when you are traveling for events, the day when you are working nonstop, the day when you're overbooked, the day when you're mentally wiped.
Decide in advance what still counts as a win for you. That could be 20 minutes of walking around the block or I don't know hitting your protein goal or not skipping lunch or breakfast or something, right? Because. Our systems survive on minimums, not just the motivation, and then pre-plan in advance.
Relentlessly. I have gone through several prep, bodybuilding, prep phases while I was in the busiest season for events. And without pre-planning, that would have all failed. That would have not worked. So wellbeing does not survive improvisation oh, I'm gonna figure it out. No. When you are hungry and you have to eat and you have to stay within your macros and within your goals, you don't make shit up like you need to know in advance what are your options so you don't stray off.
You don't fall off the wagon. So for example, when you're traveling, you already know that you're gonna stay at this hotel. You already know where your meals are coming from. You already know what that gym looks like. Plan in advance, where are you gonna eat? Like I check out those restaurants around the area where I'll be to see their menu, does it fit my goals?
And I will go to the ones that do, so all of the, or if I feel like it does not, then I always pre-plan meals with me. I bring stuff with me. So I have in the case where I might be on this retrial floor for 10 hours. And there's nothing around this convention center where I can just go and grab something and instead of just falling prey to the pizza that was delivered, because for some that's acceptable form of nutrition, I would rather have something with me ready to go, right?
Because that not only removes the decision fatigue, but also protects that minimum standard that you set for your for yourself, no matter where your environment is and how it changes. And then thirdly. Is the mindset that you spoke of right in the beginning, that's a non-negotiable. And I think a lot of people, they just keep negotiating with themselves because they're like, oh, I'm too tired.
Oh, I feel like I don't feel like doing this today. And then they break some promises that they made to themselves that if I go to this event, I'm gonna work out every single day, or I'm gonna have. I walk around the hotel every single day, or I'm gonna do a yoga, whatever it is that you wanna do, right?
For me, every care promise to myself reinforces my identity, and it's not about just being extreme and strict with myself. It's about being honest because. All the systems that I build to support me, they're built. They're built on self-trust. And when that cracks, I think everything else follows. If I can trust myself to do what I said that I would like, then I don't trust myself to do a bunch of other things.
Yes, I yes, and yes, I agree with every point that you made and I thank you. I, there are, so I can really continue this podcast on for another two hours. Yes. But if I have about 20 questions just for you but let's bring this podcast full circle. If someone wanted to rebuild a profitable, reliable network in the next 90 days, what's one habit you would create?
The, that would create the biggest ripple effect? I think one, you are probably the most experts to answer this, but if I were to just weigh in, one thought that came to me as you were asking the question is, when you talk to someone I never pitch myself. My job is not to pitch. My job is to have a conversation with them where there is this one.
Quiet question in the back of their mind in their nervous system, which is asking, do I belong in this relationship? And my job is to make sure that they do, because if that is true, then everything else from their, it's easier. So everything else could be working together on a project. Everything else could be, partnering on some event.
Everything else could be, selling business services and whatnot, right? Everything else could be me being invited to speak at their event. Next time we meet again, right? If I am able to provide a level of comfort where they know that I welcome them and I and I feel, I make them feel like they belong.
I think everything else is so much easier. I didn't understand this for a very long time, and it took me a while to grow to really understand what that means. Because at the end of the day, like you turn the meter like. And you look in the mirror and say, what would I want from this?
What would make me feel comfortable to wanna work with this person again? And that's, if you can answer that, then I think it's easier to then apply it to your network, to your relationship. 'cause again, going back to one of those famous cringey phrases, they are very true. Your network is your net worth at the end of the day, and for me, nothing has been more.
More true than growing my LinkedIn network, but not just growing for the sake of growing a number, but really having relationships with those people. As in, I know who I can go to because I know what they do, I know what they care about, and I know what are their forte, right? So I don't just, I don't care to accept people in my network just be.
Because they're there. I care to accept them because we have a common goal, and I think that's probably where that belonging comes into play the most. No you, again, you touched on so many points. I happen to have eight digital courses on my website and my, I knew you're the expert, Michael.
My main course is called Network to net Worth. That is the main course. Makes sense. And as soon as you said it, I was like, oh my god. There it is. Have I studied your courses? But let you go on. Just take a look what I have, because it's, they're really good. I love it. You just, you I can have a whole section just on each of the things that you've touched upon.
But anyway, but if somebody wanted to contact you, wanted to hire you, or just discuss something with you, where's the best place to find you? As I mentioned, LinkedIn is the best place I would I would ask people to connect with me because I think it's a safe environment, but also I share a lot of things that I'm passionate about, including AI news, including the podcast, including bodybuilding.
I have several pillars that I distribute this content in, and. That's the best place. Obviously I have websites and emails and all that, but I think that's one platform that we can all connect on and feel like it's safe enough. That's it. Perfect. That's what intentional networking sounds like.
Clear direction, consistent action and relationships built with purpose. If today's episode got you thinking about who's in your circle, how you follow up, or how you show up as a leader in your own network, take one step today. Act on it. Strong connections are built through consistency, not intentions. If you found value here, share this episode with somebody who's rebuilding, resetting, or ready for their next chapter.
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So until next time, lead yourself well. Follow up with purpose and build connections that work as hard as you do. Anka, I want, I can't begin to thank you enough for the time that you spent with us, and thank you for coming on the podcast. Thank you for having me.
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